? dont know where to put this so here goes what is the difference between haganah(f.i.g.h.t.) isreali combat training and krav maga? one of the same with different people trying to cash in?

Meant to split all responses to this.  Sorry, mistakes are made when you’re always tired. 
Krav Maga is the official self defense system and H2H system of the IDF.  Haganah is not taught asa system to the IDF.  Haganah is an accumulation of arts by one man, and an expression of his fighting style.  Nothing wrong with that in my opinoin, but KM is designed to be taught and used by a wide variety of people. 
One of my big problems with the martial arts is ego.  I believe much of the martial arts is ego driven.  If you base a fighting style off of what you are good at and what works for you, then people who have the same attributes as you will be able to use it well.  Others will fail miserably.  If on the other hand you base a style on principles that are universal then you have a style that can be taught to anybody.
Say for example Roy Jones developed a self defense style and marketed it as a style everyone could use and yet based in on his personal skills.  The style would be fairly useless to the ordinary man.  The style would also become useless to Roy Jones as his skills decreased.  (Witness Roys fall from grace to a mediocre fighter).

D very well put and thank you. however; who is roy jones?  another thing i see is the tremendous amount of advertisement for haganah and the push which to me kind of commercializes it and cheapens it; as, on the other hand krav is a “if your serious, then so is it” type of art.

Roy Jones is a boxer.  He is/was unusually fast.  Several years ago, a friend of mine was boxing and trying to be like his hero Roy Jones.  I told him Roy Jones was an extraordinary athlete with exceptional handspeed, and that he should not copy him.  That eventually the person who relies on the exceptional abilities will end up on his back on the canvas.  Sure enough Roy Jones ended up getting knocked out, because his style relied on him being faster than his opponent.
As far as marketin, I don’t have a problem with it.  What I have a problem with is the over the top, you learn this you can defeat anybody attitude some MA’s use.